Sharing new info would be useful, but I expect there is none to be had.  So people instead will leave with the same opinions they came with, making this and similar discussions a waste of time.

> Never planned on doing it, especially since I have no interest in even watching it. You're the one bitching about how bad it is, so where is your release at?

Criticizing mtl subs is bitching? Is waiting for good subs bitching? and why are you still here if you don't care about this show? I only tell people to wait for good subs and you're the one who's been yapping. Why can't you shut up?

Say its easy but as the other person said where is your release. They are worthless but spending hours bitching about the subs is worth something? lol

> Where's your release at?

Never planned on doing it, especially since I have no interest in even watching it. You're the one bitching about how bad it is, so where is your release at?

1. AI is a bubble that is going to pop soon
2. I am literally not that person lmao unless you have proof to back this up you're just talking random shit at this point because you know you're losing
3. You are the immature one, the only one here bitching. You're finally done yapping? Good riddance.

Lol I help others a lot. Putting your issues on others is laughable.

You have a pattern here so even as an ANON its easy to spot you out. You are the same person who believes shitting on others is fine. You are the same person that believed the admin deleting your comments shitting on others was violating your freedom of speech which is laughable and false. If you shit on people in public verbally you could spend time in jail for verbal harassment. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you are free to say literally anything. The law was written by people believing most people have common sense. You are one of the main people writing essays on AI and calling it shit but not lacking enough sense or intelligence to even research to find out its worth trillions and even one of the lowest value Ai companies is worth hundreds of millions.

Most here know your pattern. You never shut up with your complaining and expecting ans shitting on others then try to cry foul when people call you out for what you are.

Anyway I'm done with you. You lack the ability to be mature so not going to waste anymore time in here. Feel free to make your usual 50 comments of bitching in every thread you whine about.

> Just look in the mirror, you are not offering anything except whining.

Where's your release at? Will it be better than this? Do you speak japanese? do you have experience in translating subs? I will watch your release only if you can make good subs. If not, then shut up. You're not making any sense.

Those last 3 parts of the process are so incredibly easy and trivial to do, this isn't really the bulletproof gotcha you think it is.

The sub quality is literally what makes or breaks a release. As a result, the translation being shit makes this entire release worthless.

> Where is your release at?
You know, that's what I'd be asking you. If you're really bothered by people who actually wait for good subs. This is your chance to prove that you're productive. In the meantime, we will just watch something else instead of watching an anime with mtl subs.

They produced a video with subs (as bad as they might be), they packaged it together, uploaded it and seeded it. I'd say they produced it just the same as any other group ex for the poor subs.
Where is your release at?

MTL subs are not produced by people but machines. The machines do all the work. Your argument is flawed.

A lot of people lead busy lives and don't have the free time to learn Japanese and if English isn't their first language they probably don't see mis-translations. But at least they are producing something unlike you.

> not offering anything yourself.

Just look in the mirror, you are not offering anything except whining.

Sadly, you're the only one who bitch about things here while other actually gave their opinions.

OP here, I did end up watching both releases, I found the banding in the Hidive Amazon channel stream to be way more distracting than the lower bitrate of the ADN release. (1 example @ ~4:50, although the two streams are not in sync, seems very noticeable in dark scenes) *shrug*

Also, I'm pretty sure SubsPlus+ isn't hanging out on AT shilling their releases. Choice is good so choose what you like.

> "Its about the difference between common sense and stupidity"

Here's what common sense looks like: "oh this movie i wanted to see is out! oh, wait... people are saying the subs are machine translated and have a lot of inaccurate lines... dang, guess I'll wait for a better translation as I want to watch this with good subtitles!"

This is what stupidity looks like: "Subs are out yay!!! What's this? Mistranslated lines? Oh well, I don't care about that! I will gladly watch this inaccurate slop because my bar for quality is so low and I am incapable of being patient!"

>OFFER A DONATION TO A REPUTABLE GROUP TO SUB THE ANIME

You have no idea what you're talking about. Sub groups do not take donations in exchange for requests. They may take donations if you want to show their appreciation for existing work.

>using an AI sub program and if you find a decent one you may get better subs

Nope. They're all shit.

>Instead you don't want to do shit

Neither do you. You're here white knighting over people criticizing a low quality translation, not offering anything yourself.

>No one wants imperfect subs but bitching about someone that doesn't speak perfect English and at least tries is far better

If you're making an ENGLISH TRANSLATION, it is natural to expect the translator to know fucking English. If you don't, why not just fucking make the translation in your native language instead?

>Speaking up when it valid and has value is one thing.

Which is exactly what is being done here when criticizing bad subs.

Agreed.

Sadly though, most people in the world today prefer being lazier about everything. The bar for quality on virtually every aspect of life is just going down more and more. People don't care about putting effort and care into things. They just want to snap their fingers and have something NOW, regardless of whether or not it is good quality...And you have people too lazy to learn Japanese using MTL to "translate" shows for them, but because they don't know Japanese they literally can't even make sure what they're getting is even accurate at all!

No it just means you are childish or incapable of simple common sense. Its not about criticizing or the ability to. Its about the difference between common sense and stupidity. "Why should we have to settle?" I mean wtf dude?!?

If you want to watch the anime and don't want to settle for the available subs or sub you may never be happy with then the solution is simple.  OFFER A DONATION TO A REPUTABLE SUB GROUP TO SUB THE ANIME TO YOUR SATISFACTION. Instead you expect others to work for you just to make you happy. I mean fuck you could try using an AI sub program and if you find a decent one you may get better subs. Instead you don't want to do shit and just expect. No one wants imperfect subs but bitching about someone that doesn't speak perfect English and at least tries is far better than you who speaks no Chinese or no Japanese and expects expects expects Backbone? So acting like a toddler is having a backbone? Not many would agree. Some may bitch about things but only someone without common sense would call that backbone. Backbone is when you take care of your own business whatever it may be. Speaking up when it valid and has value is one thing. Your attitude is that of a kid expecting a Playstation from their parents and throwing a tantrum when you don't get it

No one's pouting actually. I'm perfectly fine not watching an anime if there are no good subs available. Y'know, I can always watch something else, right?

^ Some people like consuming feces. These people who like these kinds of subs are probably the same type of people.

> Instead most of you whining expect something while offering nothing ever.

So what are you offering? nothing. do you know what an irony is? I just tell people to wait for good subs and all you do is yap. I'm not interested in your BS. MTL subs is not the best you get. The best you can do is wait or start learning the language and translate it yourself. Don't be lazy and rely on MTL.

i think the ones actively choosing to watch an MTL made by someone who doesn't even know Japanese, with grossly mistranslated lines, are the ones who aren't using common sense, actually

Sure, you can watch it. Nothing stops you from that.

Just know that you'll be getting a frequently mistranslated and awkwardly worded English translation. As for why anyone would willingly choose to watch such a translation is baffling, but then again, lots of people in today's world choose to do things that make no sense at all.

Why should people have to settle for shit quality subs just because it may take a long time for someone to make good ones? This sentiment of "you should only leave positive comments on something even if it's not actually good, don't be mean!!!! if you criticize it you're just being greedy and ungrateful!!!" is so fucking annoying and I wish people would grow some fucking backbone. If you release shit subtitles expect to get shit on. Simple as that.

Also, Chinese shows are almost always ugly looking CGI garbage with the same storylines and art style so no wonder there's very little to no interest in it overseas. Until they lift their extreme restrictions on media over there I don't expect that to change at all.

But, but, but, according to some anon(s) here no subs are better than what we have here.
They can pout while others actually watch the show...

The problem is complaining without using simple common sense is a waste of time and nothing more than the same old childish mantra of I want this I want that (complaining about what you want and expect while offering nothing). Welfare mindset.  
To be clear its mainly Chinese anime that this happens with more often than not and when there isn't money put into media to generate international interest the main sub groups generally ignore this type of anime. If it turns out to be really good then eventually better subs will be released. If its just ok you may never get better subs or better subs may eventually be released but it may take a while.  Sometimes MTL is the best you get. Crying about it is a waste of time. Not always but many times even if you don't know any Chinese you can understand what they meant to say and if you aren't lazy and want better subs you can edit themselves. Instead most of you whining expect something while offering nothing ever.

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Kanpekiseijo  is listed as Kanpekisugite  
The Too-Perfect Saint  
https://myanimelist.net/anime/60157/Ka...ni_Urareru

You keep saying others, but "others" don't really agree with you. Why is that? I wonder. If I could say, maybe they just want to watch with good subs. Not MTL. you feel me?

If you don't even care about this show and are just here to be contrarian to anyone (rightfully) criticizing MTL subs, maybe you should "simply shut up"

Unlike you others won't wait. You were the first to bait when you stated your opinion on the subs. If you don't like responses that don't agree with you then you can "simply shut up" as you said.

So, why are you here? If you have no interest in this show, what's the point of your comment? Unlike you, I'm willing to wait for good subs and then watch it.

Anyway, not everyone here are like you, they can wait for good subs. Also, stop baiting people and have an original opinion. If you can't then simply shut up.

English translations & Subtitles: mikhi32 Discord

Yeah man apparently Takuya Satou is on it so I am really excited to watch it.

Patience, anon. If you can't really wait, you can start learning japanese right now and translate this yourself.

> Others mean you precisely.

Wrong! I have no interest in this show. You just came in here with your snotty attitude and "speak" for others as if they have to do as you say. I'm sure others will watch it because many like to watch the first release out because they can't wait.

Any news on if an actual fan sub or official subs are picking it up?

Maybe "Others" should raise their standards, then. Most, if not all of the native English speakers I know hate subs like this (myself included.)

The only people who think MTL English subs are good/acceptable are people who don't know English very well.

Gonna wait for better subs.

thoughts on honorifics?

Others mean you precisely. You're not representing anyone, tho. Feel free to watch it with poor subs and have your experience ruined altogether. The actual "others" will wait for good subs which are accurate and not machine-translated.

gooners eating good

Please fetch this

Go for it then, watch it raw. Others will watch it even with poor subs.

It's literally the same value as nothing

Actually, having nothing is far better than inaccurate, nonsensical translations.

If you're only looking for subs, they already have them uploaded to github. https://github.com/Kaleido-subs/ATRI

Special broadcasts like this get ignored by official/fan groups anyway 🤷

Though I still hope we get better subs.

low tier bait, if you have an original opinion on why mtl is better than nothing, please elaborate. otherwise, shut up!

Better than nothing